{"id":20850,"date":"2019-04-25T09:12:31","date_gmt":"2019-04-25T07:12:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tipandshaft.com\/?p=20850"},"modified":"2020-07-22T17:40:32","modified_gmt":"2020-07-22T15:40:32","slug":"libby-greenhalgh-even-now-i-find-it-incredibly-hard-that-we-didnt-find-john","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sailorz.com\/en\/volvo-ocean-race-en\/libby-greenhalgh-even-now-i-find-it-incredibly-hard-that-we-didnt-find-john\/","title":{"rendered":"Libby Greenhalgh: “Even now, I find it incredibly hard that we didn’t find John”"},"content":{"rendered":"

Two times\u00a0Volvo Ocean Race<\/a>\u00a0navigator\u00a0Libby Greenhalgh<\/a>\u00a0admits she is still in consolidation mode<\/strong>, looking for projects, after a mentally tough race on\u00a0Team Sun Hung Kai\/Scallywag<\/a>. She joined the team in Melbourne as a replacement, stepping on board\u00a0for Leg 4 which they went on to win<\/strong>. She admits she struggles daily trying to come to terms with the loss of John Fisher just over one year ago, but she is\u00a0quietly determined to move her career on to new levels<\/strong>. A director with\u00a0the Magenta Project<\/a>, spun off the\u00a0Team SCA<\/a>\u00a0campaign, now a globally renowned initiative which is doing fantastic work to accelerate the opportunities for women in sailing at all levels. Most recently she was\u00a0navigator on the Rolex Sydney Hobart<\/strong>\u00a0all women Ocean Respect alongside many of her Volvo Ocean Race contemporaries. Tip & Shaft caught up with Libby.<\/em><\/p>\n

Looking back now at your Volvo Races how do you reflect on your performance and that of the different teams?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nWell the second race was really one of two halves. It was a very different way to SCA. I felt I came late into SCA, and then very obviously came very very late into Scallywag.\u00a0 Let us just say it was pretty interesting meeting the team the day before and stepping on the boat to be offshore immediately for 20 days. Now when I look back at the races and what I know, even with an SCA and even more with this one\u00a0I would really struggle to join a programme in the role<\/strong>, or step in at all that late. I think it is a big ask when you are working with a team.\u00a0 It\u2019s quite full-on. But, never say never\u2026..When I stepped on we were by no means were we on the speed, so we had to do something different I guess to get results.\u00a0And it was great to see our first two legs pretty positive and when we were with the teams we could hang with them and at moments we were probably fast-ish.\u00a0 But then\u00a0I think ultimately after losing John, it was a different game<\/strong>, and a difficult game psychologically for a lot of the team.\u00a0Meantime everyone probably learned lots from that leg that we didn\u2019t.\u00a0The latter end of the race, others were really moving forwards and getting faster and faster, we weren\u2019t. We were kind of staying where we were at.\u00a0 And that punished us \u2013 we were slow relatively.\u00a0 It was hard to keep pace with people.<\/p>\n

Such a situation, being slow, is especially tough on the navigator?<\/strong>
\nThere is increased pressure on the role.\u00a0They ask what are we going to do and you\u2019ve got a choice.\u00a0Even with SCA we were slow, we were 0.3 of a knot slower on the first leg, 0.1 and then maybe by the end we could match most angles, but\u00a0we still knew we were incredibly slow under the A3<\/strong>.\u00a0We knew the moment we put that sail up it was going to be painful for us. I mean I knew that, but whether the rest of the team really fathomed that\u2026\u2026..\u00a0 \u00a0I think that is the thing, when you are 0.1 of a knot slower it doesn\u2019t sound a lot but\u00a0it is over days that is fricking miles<\/strong>. And then as soon as you are a few miles behind, that is it. You are into something different.<\/p>\n

What were your takeaways from the race then?<\/strong>
\nI learnt lots for sure, you always do every time you do the race. I think from a personal point of view, I think there is a lot to be learned about how the teams come together and how late in the day they come together. For me now that is probably my biggest thing.\u00a0Joining an existing team late or joining a team formed late in the period, trying to find a performance it is all on.<\/p>\n

From your perspective, your role how was it on a mixed team?<\/strong>
\nThe mix team, I didn\u2019t really think much about that, it was just a team of sailors.\u00a0It is being part of the team that is the biggest thing.\u00a0It doesn\u2019t matter it if is girls of boys<\/strong>, it is actually being part of that team. And\u00a0that was something Scallywag did do very well\u00a0<\/strong>\u2013 you were part of the team and it was a team.\u00a0Some of the other crews, I don\u2019t think had that.\u00a0When we got ashore we were always still looking out for each other.\u00a0I guess that when you go through something like losing John, you are more likely to be like that.\u00a0But even before (losing John) we were all quite tight, asking, \u2018what are you up to?\u2019.\u00a0That is what SCA was like<\/strong>. But then we were all together for quite a while. I think the team aspect is such a big thing.<\/p>\n

And how has it been since the end of the race?<\/strong>
\nPersonally\u00a0I have found it incredibly tough since the race<\/strong>.\u00a0And even now I find it incredibly hard that we didn\u2019t find John \u2013 even if he were alive or not.\u00a0I find that part incredibly hard. It is hard to put it to bed because I guess for me, it was my role.\u00a0My role was to find him, and I didn\u2019t find him<\/strong>.\u00a0Or at least that is how I see it.\u00a0I am sure people will say otherwise but I was tasked with doing a search plan and tried to point us in the right direction.\u00a0So, I guess that is a big aspect but equally it does drive me to want to do it again, to put that all to bed. There is an element of doing it again for him. I think that is why we all got back on the boat.\u00a0I think it was almost for me, a real element of \u2018Jesus he might have gone but let\u2019s just fricking get around Cape Horn for him\u2019 because that was obviously something that he really wanted to do.\u00a0For sure I would like to do it again<\/strong>, do a campaign that is set up early but right now I am still effectively getting my head around things rather than trying to press ahead and find that role, try and find that team.\u00a0I think that the race, maybe now, is beginning to shape up, but I mean who really knows what it is going to look like.<\/p>\n

What would be your ideal project?<\/strong>
\nI guess in a dream world\u00a0it would be running a team of my own with probably a majority female crew<\/strong>, not ruling out a mixed team and not ruling out an all-female team.\u00a0I mean even with the Rule, I think it would be interesting to see an all female team (in the IMOCA).\u00a0I think you\u2019ll get a lot of the Figaro sailors and solo sailors now joining the Volvo Race and that is where the pathway is now.<\/p>\n

Have you heard of any all women IMOCA teams yet?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nNo, I haven\u2019t, there has been rumour mongering that there\u2019s been a couple of teams that are looking for people that are keen, but no-one that I know of is currently leading that, so I am not sure.\u00a0That is not to say that there are not other people. I would be surprised\u00a0if it wasn\u2019t people with experience doing that.<\/p>\n

But could you see an all women crew winning or on the podium?<\/strong>
\nI don\u2019t see why not. It is a new boat, the biggest thing with that IMOCA class is it is\u00a0who builds the fastest boat<\/strong>.\u00a0Its back to an arms race which in a way, unless you have already got a sponsor, and are already on that programme you are highly unlikely to be one of the boats winning it.\u00a0For me realistically looking at it, the option is to join a team this race<\/strong>\u00a0and get yourself in the right position to have\u00a0your own team and be starting that process for the next race<\/strong>, when it is much clearer how it\u2019s working.<\/p>\n

What do you hear as the likely number of teams to build?<\/strong>
\nI think that ultimately there will be maybe three boats that build, otherwise it will be IMOCA teams and maybe they build too.\u00a0I don\u2019t think that you build a boat that wins the Vend\u00e9e Globe and and the Volvo.\u00a0Last time around we were trying really hard off the back of SCA to find the funds and put a team together and the sponsorship finding, it\u2019s not impossible but it is hard and I think that is the big thing.\u00a0You now need 25million.<\/strong>\u00a0For the last race we were looking for 15m going down towards 12m as time went on.<\/p>\n

Is there not a wealthy female patron or benefactor out there to get you started?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nThat is exactly what everyone said last time around.\u00a0Maybe there is but I don\u2019t know them.\u00a0We went through all the contracts, we know and that is what we were trying to do.\u00a0We went\u00a0surely there is a wealthy female<\/strong>, someone who believes in using this fantastic vehicle to drive equality but you need to know them and find them and we tried bloody hard last time but we didn\u2019t find anyone. We had gone to Mark Turner with what we wanted to do –\u00a0the all female team –\u00a0 and my guess is he wanted mixed teams and this mixed youth team that he then brought Dee to head up.\u00a0Even if you look at that mixed youth team it actually only gave opportunities to two new girls and all the other boats had that same opportunity –\u00a0two girls. And they had more guys that they rotated than they had fixed number of girls.\u00a0They had three new girls vs five new guys.\u00a0I think what will be interesting will the 65<\/strong>\u00a0with Bianca Cook announcing her team. I suspect that it will be an all-NZ team, I am not really sure what the take is on that. But whether they go 50-50 on the boys and girls or whether they like, are\u2026\u00a0 And even in an interview I saw, you got to have this many under 30s, this many under 20s and three girls\u2026\u00a0I really expected the race to say that there were going to do a 50-50<\/strong>. I guess I am a bit frustrated about the whole thing.<\/p>\n

Things are moving in a positive direction though?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nProbably but\u00a0I want it to move forward quicker<\/strong>.\u00a0It\u2019s going to take about 120 years, realistically for gender equality based on the society changes that actually need to happen.\u00a0Not for sailing, but you know\u00a0sailing is probably the worst example of gender equality in life<\/strong>, and that is the other tragic thing.\u00a0It is a poor example when you look around other sports and businesses, or just stuff like that that is so far ahead.\u00a0It is so different.\u00a0I know people say you (women) can\u2019t compare like to like, Peter Burling and Blair Tuke. But why not there\u2019s Olympic medallists out there that are not being given the opportunity to go on this race because they are a girl?\u00a0And those girls haven\u2019t really done much offshore, and they are suddenly in there, offshore and shit, pretty much skippering the boat by the end of it. Its swings and roundabouts.<\/p>\n

Sam Davies is doing well competing on equal terms and is increasingly respected in France and around the world?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nYeh briefly, she\u2019s pretty busy, she\u2019s relaxing after the Sardinha Cup now.\u00a0I think it\u2019s absolutely fantastic that they won<\/strong>. I think it just goes to show the experience of short handed offshore sailing that these both those two have, Yann and Sam. They obviously work very well together.<\/p>\n

There is a greater respect for women in sailing in France, not least because of the successes of Autissier, Chabaud, Ellen and now Sam?<\/strong>
\n100%. I think ultimately if someone was to say how do I get into The Ocean Race I\u2019d say\u00a0you\u2019ve got to go live in France and become French<\/strong>. Get ingrained live the life there and its fine. I guess in a way\u00a0if Ellen had continued<\/strong>\u00a0on doing more high profile sailing\u00a0it probably would\u2019ve changed things progressively in the UK<\/strong>. She was a known name.<\/p>\n

What is your own plan to move up the career ladder, as it were, are you still ambitious?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nIn some ways\u00a0I feel its only just started<\/strong>. But it feels like it\u2019s an interesting point to be in, I\u2019m reflecting upon that a lot at the moment. I think I\u2019d like to carry on and be able to do five Volvos and be a legend in offshore sailing, that kind of thing. But it is interesting when you look at the last Volvo I was probably the least experienced navigator on any of the boats almost even though I\u2019d done a race before. So actually, even within my role, there\u2019s people there who\u2019ve done 5,6,7 Volvos.\u00a0So you kind of got to wait for people to die or move on (smiles).<\/strong>\u00a0It is very much if you\u2019re going to pick someone do you go with someone who has done it 6 times or you can take somebody who\u2019s done it once.<\/p>\n

But on The Ocean Race it will be allrounders rather than specialist navigator\u2026.<\/strong>
\nI feel I very much got pigeon holed into that \u2018oh you can navigate, and you can do the weather but I\u2019m not very sure you can sail\u2019. But actually, I\u2019ll think you\u2019ll find I\u2019ve sailed and raced a stack load more than I\u2019ve ever done navigation and weather.\u00a0So for me I think that\u2019s\u00a0what\u2019s more exciting about the IMOCA is you will be part of the sailing<\/strong>\u00a0and the boat which is good whereas you don\u2019t sail the boat on the 65.<\/p>\n

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