{"id":21085,"date":"2019-06-24T11:14:40","date_gmt":"2019-06-24T09:14:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tipandshaft.com\/?p=21085"},"modified":"2019-06-24T11:14:40","modified_gmt":"2019-06-24T09:14:40","slug":"ray-davies-the-americas-cup-will-be-a-real-sailors-regatta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sailorz.com\/en\/americas-cup-en\/ray-davies-the-americas-cup-will-be-a-real-sailors-regatta\/","title":{"rendered":"Ray Davies: “The America’s Cup will be a real sailors regatta”"},"content":{"rendered":"

Proud Kiwi\u00a0Ray Davies<\/a>\u00a0has a long and storied sailing CV including winning the\u00a0Volvo Ocean Race in 2001-2<\/strong>\u00a0with Illbruck as well as\u00a0six America’s Cups campaigns<\/strong>. He played a key role in the development of the victorious\u00a0Emirates Team New Zealand<\/a>\u00a0boat as well as being back up helmsman and coach. He has been involved in bringing the new America’s Cup foiling monohull class from concept to reality. Ray remains a sailing team member but more and more enjoys his\u00a0coaching role<\/strong>\u00a0where his brief is wide ranging. Tip & Shaft caught up with Ray at the\u00a052 SUPER SERIES<\/a>\u00a0where he was taking time out to sail on Sled….<\/em><\/p>\n

What is your schedule now then? You\u2019re saying that you are relatively quiet?<\/strong>
\nI am personally quiet at the moment. We have made a lot of our big decisions on design and now we\u2019re in a construction phase but there is always stuff going on. We have got other sailors covering other things back home and seeing as we all get our foil arms the boats will be launching and sailing as quickly as we can.<\/p>\n

Do you expect to be as early as some of the other teams?<\/strong>
\nNo, it will be a little bit later. It\u2019s hard to know what their schedules are but we\u2019ll be getting on the water as soon as we can and I would imagine\u00a0most teams will be launching some time in August<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

How close are the scaled down test boats to the real thing?<\/strong>
\nThey\u2019re a wee, way off. I think a couple of the teams had to scramble pretty quickly to get something on the water but what we are seeing is\u00a0those boats are performing really<\/strong>. I know the Ineos guys were pretty blown away by the boat when they first started sailing it, they were pretty excited.<\/p>\n

Do you talk to them directly at all?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nGuys in our team have before, they were in touch. You could see from the videos and their comments they were pretty excited about that type of boat.<\/p>\n

And how does your simulator compare?<\/strong>
\nIt\u2019s good, we\u2019re happy with it. It\u2019s performing well.<\/p>\n

How does it work, who does what and when?<\/strong>
\nWe keep that pretty internal (laughs) but the sailing team are all involved with the simulator and sailing it and learning about the boat.<\/p>\n

Do you expect the boats to be fairly similar? Have you any indications?<\/strong>
\nNo indications, on our side we have pushed our developments as much as we can and we don\u2019t know what the other teams have done so it will be exciting to see what actually hits the water in a few months time.<\/p>\n

What is the scope for further development? Is there as much as the previous boat?<\/strong>
\nYeah I think we are\u00a0just at the bottom of the triangle again<\/strong>. It\u2019s a new type of boat, I think all the teams will have learned a lot already before they have even launched their first boat. Everyone had to make decisions a long time ago and so I think there\u2019s going to be a very big development curve.<\/p>\n

More so than before?<\/strong>
\nYeah, the AC50s developed a lot during the last campaign but I think\u00a0the rules are pretty wide open<\/strong>\u00a0for hull design so I think it\u2019ll be really really interesting to see what comes out of the sheds.<\/p>\n

Are we still expecting some of the late teams to get in?<\/strong>
\nWe are holding on, it\u2019s a pretty uphill battle for them now. Like every week that goes past it gets harder and harder but they are still trying, they haven\u2019t pulled out yet. So fingers crossed, it\u2019s the sort of campaign that I think\u00a0if you have a good design package you\u2019ll be really solid<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

So they could still be competitive if they get in?<\/strong>
\nYeah, for sure. It is getting harder with the America\u2019s Cup you need money and if you don\u2019t have funds it tough.<\/p>\n

Presumably that\u2019s frustrating from you\u2019re point of view, in the big picture.<\/strong>
\nWe would love to have as many teams as we can but the fact that there are three strong teams, it\u2019s going to be a fantastic event.<\/p>\n

In terms of your original visions, you are going to have fewer teams than you originally perhaps hoped for?<\/strong>
\nWe\u2019ll see how many teams we end up with. I think it\u2019s hard to fit too many more in. In Auckland as well but\u00a0it will be great if we get to six<\/strong>, that would be fantastic.<\/p>\n

Is there a long term future for this boat concept?<\/strong>
\nYeah, I think so for sure. I think it\u2019s going to appeal to- not everyone- but\u00a0there will be a type of owner that is wanting to go fast\u00a0<\/strong>and come in and put their boat in a normal marina.<\/p>\n

So you see a trickle down into this\u00a0 (TP52) type of grand-prix racing?<\/strong>
\nI think so. It would just be absolutely amazing. A harbour racing boat that someone could take out a few of their mates and just go tearing around the harbour.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s basically the same kind of things as the guys have as scale models just now?<\/strong>
\nYou would do them differently. You would put auto-pilots on them and have it all automatic with batteries and so forth, so that you don\u2019t need many crew and you can still control everything quickly.\u00a0A small version concept would not be much slower\u00a0<\/strong>than the big boat and it\u2019s an incredible amount of fun, but you can sail to a destination and easily drop the sails.<\/p>\n

How do you develop that?<\/strong>
\nI think that\u2019s just going to come out over time. Let\u2019s just get this Cup going and get excited and I\u2019m sure all the teams will come out with a crack at a one design boat at some point in time.<\/p>\n

What do you see the skillsets as in the cup itself, in terms of what it will take to win compared with previous cups?<\/strong>
\nNot too different to the last one. It is going to be a very difficult boat to sail like it was on Bermuda but Bermuda was very flat water and pretty nice conditions, well incredible conditions really.\u00a0Whereas Auckland is going to throw more dynamic conditions<\/strong>\u00a0and there\u2019s current and there will be more waves and the wind will be shifting so\u00a0it will be a real sailors regatta<\/strong>. You\u2019ll have to pick wind-shifts, which side and where to go, whereas Bermuda was pretty much a sprint.<\/p>\n

Are you happy about that? That\u2019s what you\u2019re aiming for?<\/strong>
\nYeah, I think it\u2019s going to be incredible in Auckland but there\u2019s lots of venues that it would be amazing but the fact that we can do it in front of all the spectators.<\/p>\n

So where are you in terms of the world series then?<\/strong>
\nYeah, the first event is going to be in Cagliari in April and then hopefully a couple more. Hopefully two or three more, we\u2019re aiming for three next year.<\/p>\n

Is that realistic?<\/strong>
\nYep, it is. It\u2019s looking good at the moment but until it gets announced we\u2019re just keeping it quiet, it\u2019s all under negotiation but it\u2019s looking really good.<\/p>\n

Is it an essential part of the big picture?<\/strong>
\nI just think it will just be good to start showcasing those boats. All the teams are prepared to send their first boats on that circuit so that\u2019s certainly the intention to have up to three events.<\/p>\n

You personally know the guys in each of the other teams so well and have sailed with a lot of them over the years how do you evaluate them?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nI think\u00a0the English team is going to be really strong<\/strong>\u00a0at the moment just because they\u2019re an established team that rolled on from the last cup with a big budget and have just been able to focus on sailing. Whereas Prada, like us have been involved in the event and they\u2019ll be really strong and then of course\u00a0the Americans are incredible individual sailors<\/strong>\u00a0with plenty of experience. They are a new team getting going but most of them have done it before, so they\u2019ll be really strong as well. It\u2019s just going to come down to who has designed the fastest boat and we\u2019ll know pretty soon.<\/p>\n

What is the pressure like at home compared to prior to previous cups, as defenders?<\/strong>
\nAt the moment it\u2019s pretty quiet and\u00a0everyone is behind us<\/strong>\u00a0and just trying to make an amazing event but for sure there is a huge expectation and passion to keep it there so the pressure will mount. They\u2019re all behind us, it\u2019s great to have such an enthusiastic hometown support there.<\/p>\n

You\u2019re visibly not putting your sailors out into different circuits and different events?<\/strong>
\nNo,\u00a0I don\u2019t think any classes translate to this future Cup boat<\/strong>. I think it\u2019s in a class of its own. So I don\u2019t think we would gain much at all from sailing GC32s, TP52s or RC44s. I think\u00a0the Olympic sailing is good for them just to keep the pressure side<\/strong>\u00a0of their sailing going. They have to perform under pressure but I think this concept of boat is throwing it out there again and it will be a whole new beast to manage and learn about.<\/p>\n

Tell us about the rigs a little bit.<\/strong>
\nIt\u2019s a one design, rotating mast, which is a really big D section mast and then the sail is made up of two elements. Basically two main sails that go up the side of the D and form a much more efficient wing than a main sail does<\/strong>. Certainly, much more in the light air it powers up and gets very efficient and powerful. As soon the boat is up range and getting windy then the gain from that kind of concept is not as big but it\u2019s still a very efficient sail. We had to go for something super efficient in the AERO package just to get the performance in light air and this concept of boat. We needed to keep the centre of effort quite low on the sail with this type of boat as well because as soon as you get foiling you don\u2019t need huge amounts of sail area again. It\u2019s an efficient, small amount of sail area. I think when people will look at the boat sailing they will think that\u2019s not a lot of sail, not a lot of mast height but, you know, it\u2019s going to be fast and they will soon get over that. They will understand why.<\/p>\n

Is there a lot of development potential in the rig?<\/strong>
\nThere is a bit in the rig, there is a lot on the sails because you are allowed to have control of the head of the sail, you can do whatever you like in the top four meteRs of the sail to mechanically manipulate the shape of the sail, so that is a huge space for people to play with. Also on the bottom section, teams have the option of having a boom or no boom.<\/p>\n

What are you having?<\/strong>
\nWait and see. It\u2019s wide open there so it will be interesting to see.<\/p>\n

What are the pros and cons there?<\/strong>
\nWell boomless is obviously very light but you may not have the same control. The boomless system probably gets a little more complicated but there are a lot of classes who are doing it now so theres a very strong argument to go that way. I wouldn\u2019t be at all surprised if we see people in both camps booms or no booms. It\u2019s a pretty tough call. When the boats are launched it\u2019s wide open, you can make both work.<\/p>\n

So you\u2019re looking forward to sailing on the boat…..<\/strong>
\nOh yeah, I can\u2019t wait! Good to finally see this thing up and ripping around. It\u2019s going to be pretty exciting for sure.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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