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New Zealand\u00a0Phil Robertson, now 32, has\u00a0just won 10 days ago the World Match Race Championship<\/a>\u00a0for a second time, adding to that famous 2016 world title which brought with it a $1m prize. He\u00a0is now skipper helm of the\u00a0China SailGP Team<\/a>\u00a0 which is complemented by\u00a0GC32 Tour<\/a>\u00a0events with the\u00a0CHINAOne NINGBO team, the emphasis being to help train up a top echelon of Chinese sailors. Tip & Shaft caught up with Robertson as he relaxed at home in Sweden after winning in magical Marstrand and before he heads to Cowes for the next SailGP event.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

A second World Championship win Phil, what were your expectations going into the event, did you figure you were among the favourites?<\/strong>
\nWe\u2019re thrilled to win the title again. It was quite windy for most of it which suited us well. My team did a fantastic job of keeping us fast around the track. We actually haven\u2019t sailed the boat very much since the start of 2017, we\u2019ve only done a couple of events since then, a\u00a0few of the teams have done a lot of training and M32 series events so\u00a0I didn\u2019t have very high expectations<\/strong>. But in saying that we\u2019ve done a lot of sailing this year and it\u2019s seemed to have paid off in different cats. I can\u2019t speak highly enough of my team, they do well in these boats and that makes my job a lot easier. So we\u2019ve done really well.<\/p>\n

So I think this is your tenth year since you set out to chase a pro career, it has been a bumpy ride at times but you have done well?<\/strong>
\nYes, I\u2019ve been doing match racing for 10 years and I’m at the top level. But to be honest\u00a0my career has been a bit of a challenge for me<\/strong>. The goal posts have shifted so much in terms of different boats and events and styles of match racing and we’ve just had to adapt and learn to sail cats, that was the biggest shift.\u00a0Now I’m obviously going foiling so again you’ve got to learn<\/strong>. And I’ve got to adapt and shift to that style of sailing. I\u2019m doing my best to keep up with the whole thing and the way that the sport is going. That\u2019s just how I do it: moving goal posts all the time and trying to keep up.<\/p>\n

Who would have thought when you left NZ this is the way it would go?<\/strong>
\nThe original goal was to be sailing\u00a0Version 5s in the America\u2019s Cup and that shifted pretty quickly after \u201909.\u00a0I never would have imagined the sport to be where it is today<\/strong>\u00a0and on the other side of that I have to say it\u2019s absolutely fantastic and I’m thrilled to be a part of it. I think it\u2019s got much more exciting, so far from where it was. You\u2019re at the forefront of technology now. And speed, so fast.\u00a0It\u2019s fantastic to be a part of it.<\/strong><\/p>\n

And SailGP with the Chinese team, there are challenges and rewards I would imagine?<\/strong>
\nIt\u2019s a completely different game again. I\u2019ve done a lot of learning this year, that\u2019s for sure.\u00a0The level in this SailGP is the best of the best<\/strong>. The very top. You\u2019ve got guys with experience in those boats and you\u2019ve just got to buy and you don\u2019t have time to catch up, so we\u2019re on a pretty steep learning curve in terms of trying to match the top teams there and get to their level, just purely based off their experience.\u00a0I think it\u2019s phenomenal<\/strong>, what\u2019s happening and the boats at the forefront of technology. I would say that it\u2019s the best sailing series in the world right now.<\/p>\n

What is your pathway to close the gap on the top Sail GP guys?<\/strong>
\nIt\u2019s really difficult to be honest, we\u2019ve got quite a task on our hand being a Chinese team with\u00a0the goal of making it fully Chinese in four years’ time<\/strong>. That\u2019s the root of everything we\u2019ve done there, to try and teach the Chinese team and get them up to speed. On the other side of that\u00a0we\u2019re also trying to learn these boats and get up to speed with the top teams<\/strong>, so it\u2019s quite a hard environment to be doing what we\u2019re doing there. It is definitely a challenge that\u2019s going to be hard to make a success It is thoroughly enjoyable. You just cannot beat a day out on those boats. So\u00a0it is enjoyable but an extremely challenging task<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

But with limited time on the boats how can you hope to close the gap, the hierarchy might not change?<\/strong>
\nI guess the way we try to improve is\u00a0basically all based off data<\/strong>. We don\u2019t have much time on the water. You have to maximise all your other resources. One of them is all of the data,\u00a0the open data of all the teams is available<\/strong>. That means we can dig into the other teams\u2019 strengths and weaknesses and look at what they\u2019ve been doing.\u00a0It\u2019s a fantastic tool\u00a0<\/strong>and we use that pretty vigorously.\u00a0Also, the simulator in London<\/strong>. That\u2019s another tool that\u2019s a pretty incredible piece of tech. We\u2019re going there for a few days before each event. To be honest we’d probably be in there every day if we could but it\u2019s not easy to get in there and get training but that\u2019s one tool that we\u2019re using a lot of to get our sailors up to speed as much as we can and spending as much time as we can in the simulator.<\/p>\n

And are you happy with your progress so far?<\/strong>
\nWe are making a lot of progress I don\u2019t think New York was really a key indicator, because of the conditions quite puffy and shifty and up and down in the gusts.\u00a0We are really looking forward to Cowes<\/strong>\u00a0and showing what we have learned season already and trying to mix it with the top couple of teams.<\/p>\n

You talk of the goalposts moving all the time. In terms of events and boats where would you like it to stop, what would should Phil Robertson and your team best?<\/strong>
\nI don\u2019t really mind if the goalposts keep shifting, as long as they keep going in a way that\u2019s based on speed. The boats are getting faster and\u00a0they’re pushing the boundaries of physics<\/strong>. I don\u2019t mind if it keeps going that way. I think\u00a0the Americas Cup boats are going to be a different game again<\/strong>\u00a0and that\u2019s the fantastic thing about our sport. We are\u00a0in such a development stage and its awesome to be a part of it. I think my strengths are probably in match racing and that style of sailing so if I can line myself up with that style of sailing and keep doing that, that\u2019s probably not a bad thing.<\/p>\n

Do you have any particular America\u2019s Cup goals, you are still quite young, presumably the Cup figures somewhere on your career ambitions?<\/strong>
\nI think my goals will always be the same-\u00a0I want to be racing at the top of the sport against the best guys<\/strong>\u00a0in the world and if I can do that in whatever series it is then I’m loving it. Whether it’s Sail GP or anything along those lines it\u2019s a great place to be. I still believe this is the best yachting in the world at the moment, in the best place to be and maybe when the Americas Cup comes along and gains a bit of traction that will take some of the spotlight, but for sure SailGP is definitely this is the place to be right now.<\/p>\n

And you are doing the GC32 circuit too….<\/strong>
\nThey\u2019re really cool boats. It\u2019s a great little series going on and there\u2019s some good teams on it. But\u00a0it\u2019s kind of a series that you really need to campaign for and have your own boat.\u00a0It is not a cheap thing to do<\/strong>. It is a great series. I guess we\u2019ll see in the next half of this year how it survives and what happens in that area. But right now I think\u00a0there\u2019s some pretty cool IMOCAs coming out right now<\/strong>\u00a0and the more the world goes foiling, and the boats go foiling then in my eyes the better it is for the sport. As long as we\u2019re pushing the boundaries, it\u2019s going to keep the popularity of the sport up.<\/p>\n

You have said several times you want to race round the world, what\u2019s your timeline and what race?<\/strong>
\nI would love to race round the world, 100%<\/strong>. The more those boats go foiling the more enticing it is to try and get involved.\u00a0Looking at some of those Ultime tris are pretty impressive machines\u00a0<\/strong>so I’m definitely keeping my eye on it all and seeing where it goes and if I can be involved one day, I\u2019d love to be<\/strong>. I\u2019ve got no timeline on things. Right now I am in a good space.<\/p>\n

What do you see as the future of the World Match Racing\u00a0Tour?<\/strong>
\nIt\u2019s in a bit of a difficult spot right now<\/strong>. But I can see it going back to where it came from, with yacht clubs running events and a bit slower monohulls, but I do hope there are some higher performance monohulls and foiling boats involved as well. I’m sure they’re looking to keep up with the sport and keep at the fine edge of it. That\u2019s where these guys need to come from as well, to get into these bigger boats and sail the Americas Cp and the Sail GPs. There needs to be a breeding ground and if the World Match Racing Tour can provide some boats to breed some good talent on then for sure it would be strong.<\/p>\n

Would you be back almost regardless of the boat?<\/strong>
\nIt would be boat dependent for me to be honest. The boat and the people are what matters. If there are good guys racing cool boats I am interested. But\u00a0going back to an IOD or Catalina 37 is not so exciting anymore<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

You would imagine that there will be an offshoot from the new Cup boats which will develop and fit the Tour?<\/strong>
\nDefinitely. Look at all these little development boats that the Cup teams are building and how cool they look and fun.\u00a0There has to be a foiling monohull on the World Match Racing Tour in the future<\/strong>. If there is, I am there. I’d be pretty interested in getting involved.\u00a0My ambition is to be racing the fastest boats in the world against the best guys in the world.<\/p>\n

Could you, would you like to be starting out again considering where the sport is now?<\/strong>
\nI don\u2019t think I could start out again. It\u2019s a different sport to when I started out and I think that the pathway that I’ve taken doesn\u2019t exist anymore. That is a bit of a shame. The guys are coming from different areas in the sport now just purely based on the boats that we\u2019re racing, rather than through match racing skills.<\/p>\n

How hard was it to get on the road and get going in the beginning?<\/strong>
\nI really enjoyed how we started out. But it wasn\u2019t exactly pretty. I got a team together of some really good mates and we packed our bags and set out for Europe for six months with a little plan and kind of just made it up as we went.\u00a0We probably went with enough money for one month. We managed to last for six months<\/strong>. We did that for the first four years. We just set out to get known and to get out there and it seemed to pay off. There\u2019s definitely\u00a0a lot of sacrifice<\/strong>\u00a0involved if you want to get to the top.<\/p>\n

What about that million dollar prize purse, it\u2019s all spent?<\/strong>
\n(Laughs) I don\u2019t think the team is that stupid!\u00a0Most of them bought a house<\/strong>\u00a0with it, so that was a nice way to make some money. We had not made much until then. It go everyone grounded and set up for life, so it was definitely nice. It is shame it is not round every year but hopefully it will be around another time.<\/p>\n

Next?<\/strong>
\nWe are setting up for the next GP event in Cowes. After that I think I might take on the\u00a0A-Class World Champs<\/strong>\u00a0as well.\u00a0I can\u2019t say enough about sailing in as many different classes and events as you can when you are young.<\/p>\n

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