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With\u00a0two Ultimes<\/strong>\u00a0currently in build (Macif and Banque Populaire) and\u00a0four new Imoca\u00a0<\/strong>(Charal, Ark\u00e9a Paprec and Apivia, already recently launched as well as the new Corum to come), the\u00a0CDK Technologies yard<\/a>\u00a0is on the crest of a wave during this pre-Vend\u00e9e Globe year. We pressed for the chance to speak with CDK’s managing director, a very discrete\u00a0Philippe Facque<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n

Apivia is the last Imoca launched out of CDK, what does this boat represent, on the build side, for your company?<\/strong>
\nWell, like all new boats, there is a progression, as each successive new boat is more and more sophisticated. What is interesting about the last Imoca is that\u00a0there are now different architects,<\/strong>it’s interesting to see the differences between a VPLP, Charal, a Verdier, Apivia and two Kouyoumdjians, Ark\u00e9a Paprec and Corum. These last two have the same hulls but not the same deck plan. And now today we see fully covered in boats, like Apivia whose cockpit is closed. It is also interesting now that\u00a0the teams and the skippers are so much more invested and involved<\/strong>\u00a0in all the design and construction phases, everyone puts their experience and ideas and what they want.<\/p>\n

Are the teams more and more present on site now during the construction phase?<\/strong>
\nIt depends on the teams. Some are a lot more involved, like Banque Populaire or MerConcept, where it is very structured, each employing a project manager and they also do a lot of things themselves. These are really complementary relationships and it is imperative that the team of the shipyard and the boat team get on well.<\/p>\n

How has the collaboration with the design offices evolved in recent years?<\/strong>
\nIt becomes ever\u00a0more and more rigorous and meticulous<\/strong>. All the plans are seen and fully reviewed. It is not us, the builders, who have the first line contact with the designers. It is the client who order their plans from the architect and then they pass them on to us the plans once they are fully reviewed. And then from there it is an ongoing discussion between the three parties.<\/p>\n

Do you have your input?<\/strong>
\nOnly on the technical decisions. We can refuse to build according to a method or with a product that we don’t feel confident about the result or if we do not have the experience with. For all the parts built with new materials, we do full lab tests to know if it will be strong enough. That is part of our job, because after all\u00a0we have a responsibility if it fails<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Have construction methods evolved since the previous generation of Imoca?<\/strong>
\nNot necessarily with the methods but the materials. They require us to be super\u00a0vigilant on the materials and how we handle and use them. But as to how we build with them it does not change much, vacuum bagged pre-impregnated cloths, baked 90 to 110 degrees depending on the laminate cloths.<\/p>\n

Do the boats take longer to build and are they more expensive to build?<\/strong>
\nThey do take a little longer to build, because\u00a0we now spend more time on the reinforcing around the foil boxes<\/strong>, that is all done by hand very meticulously. They are also a bit more expensive, because\u00a0the materials costs go up<\/strong>, the price of carbon has not gone down.<\/p>\n

You have built four of the seven new Imocas and four Ultims in a few years, what do you think gives you an edge over your competitors?<\/strong>
\nI guess you should ask the question to our customers!\u00a0We took a real hit on the head when\u00a0Hubert Desjoyeaux<\/a>\u00a0died in 2011<\/strong>. We took some time to rebuild but have a great team now and a solid business structure. Over the last 4-5 years,\u00a0we have built a very good team<\/strong>, rigorous and competent, centred round\u00a0St\u00e9phane Digard<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0Yann Dollo<\/a>\u00a0complemented by young engineers who are good and operators who do very good job.\u00a0It is the rigor that counts<\/strong>, you have to be on it all of the time, every minute of every day.<\/p>\n

So this is a good period for CDK?<\/strong>
\nOf course. We have a lot of work: our build schedule is full for a good year and a half. That means we have to turn down certain requests.\u00a0I touch wood and I hope we will have more good projects in the years to come<\/strong>. This is one of the dangers of this job, it is difficult to predict what will happen in two years time.<\/p>\n

Are you building more and more foils?<\/strong>
\nWe have started to, for example doing those for Macif last year and we will probably do Banque Populaire’s. It’s exciting because they are big, very technical pieces,\u00a0it’s a real challenge<\/strong>. For the moment, with our resources and facility we have to build them in two pieces. The ideal would be to do it in one, or otherwise, we cure them somewhere else like we did for Macif – at Airbus which has big autoclaves. But it is risky to move by road parts which are not yet cured.<\/p>\n

Did you have to adapt the structure of the firm to deal with the increasing demand? How has turnover evolved at CDK?<\/strong>
\nYes. Today if you count Port-la-For\u00eat and Lorient, there are\u00a0eighty of us<\/strong>, which means we have to be very careful to ensure quality remains high with a lot of changes concerning quality control and checks\u2026 This year, we will have\u00a0a turnover of between eight and nine million euros<\/strong>\u00a0as opposed to seven in previous very good years and around six on average.<\/p>\n

Which boats are still being built at CDK?<\/strong>
\nLooking at the Ultims, there is Banque Populaire, which is progressing well, then there are the floats and crossbeams for Macif, but we don\u2019t have the room to assemble both boats. I think Macif will be assembled in their new shed in Concarneau. As for the Imocas, we still have Corum. We do have some other projects coming up, but we can\u2019t talk about them for now. They will be announced shortly.<\/p>\n

What about boats for The Ocean Race?<\/strong>
\nDiscussions are continuing of course, but you probably know more than we do! And we have signed confidentiality agreements.<\/p>\n

The Vend\u00e9e Globe boosts the market. What do you think will happen in the post Vend\u00e9e Globe years?<\/strong>
\nUnfortunately, we cannot predict what will happen. The surprising thing today is that people say the boats are increasingly expensive, but with each edition, there are more and more orders and more importantly, they are placed as soon as the Vend\u00e9e Globe finishes, whereas in the past, there was usually a gap of a year.\u00a0I think that The Ocean Race should fill that gap<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

You mentioned Macif, which will probably be assembled in Concarneau. Today, more and more teams have their own yard. We saw that with Ark\u00e9a Paprec, which was partly built by Vincent Riou\u2019s team, and Corum, jointly built by Mer Agit\u00e9e. Is that something new and does that mean extra competition for you?<\/strong>
\nYes, it\u2019s new. For Ark\u00e9a Paprec, it was their choice; for Corum, they would have liked us to do more, but our workload did not allow us to do that, so it slotted into place well with the finishing work done by Mer Agit\u00e9e.\u00a0We don\u2019t see it as competition for the moment, but it could become that<\/strong>. But not everyone has the heat chambers and ovens that are required. You have to be certain that you can recover the cost [the oven at Keroman, set up a year ago, cost 800,000 euros, editor\u2019s note]…<\/p>\n

Are you hoping to diversify outside of sail racing?<\/strong>
\nWhen I took control of the yard in 1993, I said that 30% of our production would be from areas other than boats: we never had the time for that<\/strong>\u00a0and that is still the case today. We did do the blades for\u00a0a tidal energy scheme<\/a>, and we hope that Sabella will manage to develop others, which are even bigger. Apart from that, we have requests to make foils for passenger and cargo vessels, but once again it is a question of availability.<\/p>\n

When you look back at the history of CDK, how do you feel?<\/strong>
\nI wasn\u2019t there at the start\u00a0[he arrived in 1993 to inject capital into the yard created in 1984 by Jean Le Cam, Hubert Desjoyeaux, Ga\u00ebtan Gou\u00e9rou and Marc Van Peteghem, editor\u2019s note]<\/em>. I think on the other hand, I was one of the first clients for the construction of a big boat with the Royale catamaran and\u00a0I see it as a fantastic adventure<\/strong>. There have been complicated moments as well as busy times. You can\u2019t make yourself a fortune with this work, but it\u2019s an interesting profession, and there are always new things to discover with a lot of research. You have to progress and we really want to improve all the time<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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