{"id":27047,"date":"2020-06-09T07:00:13","date_gmt":"2020-06-09T05:00:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tipandshaft.com\/?p=27047"},"modified":"2020-06-05T18:34:16","modified_gmt":"2020-06-05T16:34:16","slug":"chris-hosking-grand-prix-sailing-still-seems-to-be-quite-strong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sailorz.com\/en\/52-super-series-en\/chris-hosking-grand-prix-sailing-still-seems-to-be-quite-strong\/","title":{"rendered":"Chris Hosking: “Grand prix sailing still seems to be quite strong”"},"content":{"rendered":"

With the<\/em>\u00a0Covid-19 pandemic affecting the whole planet, it has meant\u00a0a great deal of uncertainty for sport in general\u00a0<\/strong>and sailboat races are no exception. What will the impact be on our sport? What changes will there be to the economic model? How do races need to change? How will sponsors behave?<\/p>\n

To try to get to grips with this new situation,\u00a0<\/em>Tip & Shaft\u00a0is carrying out\u00a0a series of five interviews about the future of sail racing<\/strong>. Here we speak to\u00a0Chris Hosking<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0in order to better understand what the past few months have been like for a grand prix pro sailor and what he sees as the future. Newport RI based Aussie Hosking\u00a0<\/strong>has been project managing TP52 builds since 2004 and sails as mainsheet trimmer on\u00a0Provezza<\/a>\u00a0on the\u00a052 SUPER SERIES<\/a>. Like many others at his level he also sails on the\u00a0J Class<\/a>\u00a0circuit and the\u00a044Cup<\/a>\u00a0circuit.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

So Chris what has life been like these past few months?<\/strong>
\nWell in some respects it has been good to be at home, not travelling and living out of bags all the time, being with my wife and our dogs but we have not worked since March and don\u2019t really know for sure when we will start again. I don\u2019t think there’s ever been a moment in our history quite like this\u00a0it\u2019s just shut down work for so many people<\/strong>. I think there’s 40 million people unemployed now in the United States. Obviously, I’m a part of that statistic and its wiped out our industry completely.\u00a0We did the Antigua Superyacht Challenge on the J class and then I flew home. At that sort of time, I think it was around March 17 this virus was kicking off and there was a lot of indecision about whether or not regattas were even going to go ahead. But the minute St Barth\u2019s was cancelled our team manager said, \u2018Guys get home however you can\u2019. And immediately after that the TP52 Worlds were cancelled in South Africa and that was it, nothing since then.<\/p>\n

So even if this kind of happening is not really covered by contracts or sailor agreements, I understand most owners on the Grand Prix scene have been quite decent and supportive\u2026.. as far as you know?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nIt was a sort of unwritten word. I guess you could say in the industry that if a regatta is cancelled for whatever reason, generally within a three week period, you get paid some sort of compensation for that regatta. In our situation with Svea was\u00a0<\/strong>we were paid 100% for St Barth\u2019s<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

But there are not many fixed contracts of employment or engagement in your business as a pro sailor?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nEven before this some of us had contracts or crew member agreements. Some of the teams that I’ve worked with we’ve had a contract and some of the teams haven’t. In my particular position now the 52 team I’m with don\u2019t have contracts so\u00a0it really leaves you in the hands of the owner and his goodwil<\/strong>l whether he wants to look out for you or not. It\u2019s been a bit of a mixed bag among the TP52 fleet I know of some teams that have been paid at least 50% for every regatta that has been cancelled so far. But there are other teams that have been paid absolutely nothing.<\/p>\n

So the learning from this is maybe that there have to be more comprehensive agreements across the sport?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nThis is professional sport and the top end of the sport that we participate in is fully professional. You you could have any old Jack jump on a boat and be able to sail it at the competitive level that the owners require of us. So\u00a0<\/strong>I do think it does need to become a little more structured. Certainly\u00a0the way to do that would be to have contracts between the service provider (which is us) and the owner<\/strong>\u00a0of the boat. It is a business after all.\u00a0I definitely think that is the way forward, absolutely.<\/p>\n

From what you know of your colleagues and peers, has it been a struggle or have most guys built themselves some kind of contingency, rainy day fund?<\/strong>
\nI think you\u2019d be foolish if you didn\u2019t really, financially irresponsible if you didn\u2019t. We do know sailing is a relatively fickle industry. This is the owner\u2019s hobby. It is a luxury sport and something that these guys are obviously very fortunate to be able to be in a position where they can spend the money that they do to enjoy the sport at this high level. But\u00a0they can turn it off whenever they feel like it<\/strong>. Literally they can get out of bed one the morning and decide \u2018I don\u2019t want to do this anymore\u2019. It\u00a0does not take a pandemic to stop your income coming in. I do think\u00a0you have to be responsible and make sure you\u2019ve got money saved away<\/strong>\u00a0to live through those light spells where there isn\u2019t much work and this is obviously one of those times. I don\u2019t think anyone expected it to go on for as long as it has and obviously it affects all of us financially. For me personally I’m quite fortunate that I have looked after myself financially and we can probably weather this one out till March next year if we really had to.<\/p>\n

But decent pro sailors at the level you are operating at, 52 SUPER SERIES, RC44, J Class, Maxi, Superyachts, are making good money.\u00a0<\/strong>
\nIt depends on your role on the boat, obviously\u00a0tacticians are getting paid<\/strong>. Your good professional (with a key role, say the pitman) is on anywhere\u00a0from 600 to 1000 euros a day<\/strong>\u00a0I\u2019d imagine. And some will be doing upwards of 150 days a year at least.\u00a0But\u00a0it is\u00a0not a game where you\u2019re going to retire at 60 with millions of dollars in the bank<\/strong>, there\u2019s obviously a very rare few that have been extremely successful. A lot of the sailors that went through that Version 5 Americas Cup when they salaries were really big, and they were on those long contracts, some of those guys have done very well. But there are guys like my good mate Robbie Naismith who invested heavily in property with the salary he was making in that period and he’s done really well.\u00a0But those salaries are gone now no question,\u00a0no one is getting paid that super money<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

But you can pretty much choose how long or short your season is?<\/strong>
\nThe season starts thinning out quite rapidly in September. You do then have to get from October into March before it starts really opening up again. Me, I\u2019ll go down to Asia and do a few regattas down there, maybe a Sydney-Hobart and some that stuff in Sydney but the pay is nothing like in Europe and the regattas are far fewer obviously.<\/p>\n

And from your viewpoint and what you know so far, do you think this pandemic will cause a reduction in the number of owners happy to operate at this level and spend the money it takes?<\/strong>\u00a0Or do you think most love it so much they will still make it their priority?<\/strong>
\nI do think they will mostly carry on<\/strong>. A guy like our (Provezza) owner he’s been sailing a hell of a long time. Maybe he talks about retiring still from time to time but I’m sure he doesn\u2019t want to finish his sailing career on a note like this with a great big pandemic pause ending his illustrious career.\u00a0I’m sure he wants to finish on a high note<\/strong>\u00a0and I’m sure a lot of owners feel the same way so they\u2019ll bounce back next year.<\/p>\n

But are they likely to be more conscious of budget and saving where they can?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nAs you know in my career, having been a former boat captain in the fleet, I was always taught as a nipper to spend money as if it was your own. I think regardless of how wealthy an owner may be you have a responsibility to spend their money as efficiently as possible to help them achieve their goals. It\u2019s one of those ones you go through every year where you say \u2018right the owner wants to win the season\u2019 and in order for that it\u2019s going to cost you X in sails and in crew, people, containers and the infrastructure and everything. For sure\u00a0I don\u2019t think any of us spend money like its falling out of trees<\/strong>. But we are always trying to be as cost effective as you can be to help the owner achieve their goals as I’ve said.\u00a0I certainly hope all will continue. The 52 SUPER SERIES owners are a really remarkable group of owners and very diverse. I mean when you have a look at all the owners and how they make their money it\u2019s a very interesting, colourful group of people. But, yes, some are going to be affected more than others. But\u00a0we are operating in an area of the industry where these guys have got enough money to be able to continue to do this<\/strong>. It\u2019s the 40 footer racer or cruiser racer guys that does the regional sailing that has been knocked hard enough. They might be the ones who will need to reduce or stop campaigning. \u00a0Look back to the global financial crisis and it wiped out the middle of the yachting scene. But the J\/70\u2019s and Melges 20 type boats that emerged are still super strong.\u00a0Grand prix sailing still seems to be quite strong<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

You do some racing on the J Class and Superyachts, do you see that arena as a more robust market?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nWell for sure we’ve seen an explosion in super yachting in the last five to 10 years. Ten years ago you could walk throught the STP yard in Palma and a Perini Navi would\u2019ve been a massive super yacht but now you walk and\u00a0they have proliferated<\/strong>.\u00a0There are so many of them now and these owners genuinely seem interested in wanting to race these boats. They\u2019d never do a circuit of regattas like the 52\u2019s where they do 6 regattas a year, they might do two or something like that. But they consume a lot of experienced people to sail these boats so\u00a0I do see super yachting just continuing to grow irrespective of the pandemic<\/strong>\u00a0or any economic doom that\u2019s forecast as a consequence of it. I\u2019d like to think that the 52 owners are wealthy enough that this class should remain strong.<\/p>\n

You are based in Newport, are things opening up for racing on the East Coast USA yet?<\/strong>
\nIt\u2019s quite interesting actually I\u2019ve been called by Gavin Brady for the owner of the Maxi 72 Vesper (ex Momo). Their schedule for that is Vineyard Racing in Edgartown in Martha\u2019s Vineyard in the end of July, start of August. The Ida Lewis Distance Race in the middle of August, The New York YC\u2019s annual at end of August and the New York Club Rolex in mid-late September. And\u00a0 it seems if there’s enough interest that the regattas will go ahead but we need to socially distance on the boats. But obviously you know a boat like Vesper is the old an IRC 72 normally requires 22 people to sail it. But we are looking to sail it with 10-15 people and not using spinnakers. We\u2019ll use a code zero or some sort of sail like that, try and sail the boat with a reduced crew so\u00a0the owner can still get out on the water and have some fun and enjoy sailing<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

And what about the RC44 and the 44Cup you are a bit of a fan and think they will survive OK?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nI’m a massive fan of a 44<\/strong>, they\u2019re such a fun and exciting boat for sail and I really do think they\u2019re great value for the owners. The quality of racing compared to what those guys spend is really good value for money in my opinion. I understand that Cowes Week has been cancelled and obviously that was going to be a regatta for the 44\u2019s to go to this year. The boats are currently in Portoroz\u00a0in Slovenia and I understand that the boats are going to stay there and if there is an opportunity to have a regatta then we will.<\/p>\n

Given the situation now and\u00a0the future of grand prix sailing what\u2019s your advice to young pro sailors?<\/strong>
\nYou got to have a skill you cannot now expect to be paid to sit on a boat and be a trimmer.\u00a0You\u2019ve got to have a second skill set<\/strong>. I know so many guys who are really accomplished riggers or sail makers or boat builders in addition to pro sailing.\u00a0You need to bring so much more to the team than just pure sailing talent<\/strong>. That\u2019s certainly my advice, get an education and get a skill that becomes indispensable to a sailing team and all of a sudden, you\u2019ll find yourself becoming in demand.<\/p>\n

What does grand prix sailing have to do to evolve and strengthen its offering?\u00a0<\/strong>
\nI wish I knew, I don\u2019t know what to say. One thing is that we do all love the sport and I’m passionate about the sport. Make no mistake if I had money I\u2019d be a boat owner too and I\u2019d be doing what these guys are doing!\u00a0I often dream about it. I can imagine if you had the money and wealth to do it it\u2019d be so cool.\u00a0Imagine steering your own boat on the best circuit in the world it\u2019d be so awesome<\/strong>. I hope there are other passionate sailors out there in the world who do have the money and do have an interest in it who come join the circuits. Whether it be a 44 or a 52 or even a J\/70.<\/p>\n

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