{"id":51312,"date":"2023-02-10T18:02:04","date_gmt":"2023-02-10T17:02:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tipandshaft.com\/?p=51312"},"modified":"2023-02-17T18:02:29","modified_gmt":"2023-02-17T17:02:29","slug":"antoine-mermod-its-up-to-imoca-to-ensure-that-we-make-progress-in-terms-of-diversity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sailorz.com\/en\/imoca-en\/antoine-mermod-its-up-to-imoca-to-ensure-that-we-make-progress-in-terms-of-diversity\/","title":{"rendered":"Antoine Mermod: &#8220;It&#8217;s up to Imoca to ensure that we make progress in terms of diversity&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p lang=\"EN-GB\"><em>Between\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bit.ly\/3IgrXAa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the &#8220;Clarisse Cr\u00e9mer affair&#8221;<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<strong>The Ocean Race<\/strong>,\u00a0Imoca is\u00a0top of the news agendas at the moment and so a good time for for Tip &amp; Shaft to speak with the president of the class, Antoine Mermod.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p lang=\"EN-GB\"><strong>\u25ba\u00a0When did you learn of Banque Populaire&#8217;s decision to separate away from Clarisse Cr\u00e9mer and what was your reaction?\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\nClarisse told\u00a0me on Monday of last week (January 30). I admit that I was quite surprised at the time. The information then came out on Thursday, I saw the Banque Populaire press release and\u00a0<strong>I pretty much fell out of my chair<\/strong>\u00a0because I was not expecting this affair, which was between a skipper and their\u00a0sponsor,\u00a0would\u00a0really focus\u00a0around the Vend\u00e9e Globe. I don&#8217;t really want\u00a0to judge each other&#8217;s communications, the only thing\u00a0<strong>I find as a little unfair is that the debate focuses on the Vend\u00e9e Globe and diversity<\/strong>, when historically, it t is a race that has always been rather ahead of other races when it comes to female skippers.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"EN-GB\"><strong>\u25ba\u00a0Were you surprised by the frenzy that this affair aroused?\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\nIt was indeed very quick to take off and almost unheard of in the history of ocean racing. What is tricky with such an emotive topic is\u00a0<strong>to keep a cool head and try to have a slightly more objective analysis<\/strong>, but still taking account of all the emotion aroused by\u00a0all the people who comment. It was\u00a0coincidental that we had a &#8220;TMS&#8221; (team managers and skippers meeting) the morning after the announcement. And we started by dealing with this subject for an hour, it was not easy, precisely because, after less than 24 hours of a media frenzy that went in all directions, it was difficult to manage to draw conclusions.\u00a0<strong>Many skippers spoke, it was super interesting<\/strong>\u00a0and it helped us all to understand a little more professionally what was happening.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"EN-GB\"><strong>\u25ba\u00a0Is the class participating in a search for a solution between the parties?\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\nNo. We are a class of skippers, so we support our skipper, Clarisse; Banque Populaire is a very important sponsor that has been in the Imoca class for years,\u00a0<strong>we want the best outcome to be found quickly<\/strong>\u00a0so that everyone comes out well but we don&#8217;t need to interfere. It is up to us, on the other hand, to ensure that we make progress on this issue of diversity.\u00a0<strong>The advantage of this media frenzy is that it will push us to reflect and to propose rules<\/strong>\u00a0that will perhaps be more forward looking\u00a0next time. We are going to start working on this with\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/themagentaproject.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Magenta Project<\/a>, an association that\u00a0the class is a partner to on questions of diversity.\u00a0<strong>Sam Davies is in the process of taking on this subject<\/strong>\u00a0with the Magenta Project, with the Vend\u00e9e Globe and the major races, to better reflect on diversity and the rules and regulations\u00a0side that need to come out of this.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 lang=\"EN-GB\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">\u00a0\u201cWe should really have put more forward<\/span><\/em><br \/>\n<em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">the question of motherhood\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p lang=\"EN-GB\"><strong>\u25ba\u00a0In\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bit.ly\/3xbNKCz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">an interview for Le T\u00e9l\u00e9gramme<\/a>, Sam Davies said she believes that &#8220;it&#8217;s a bit our fault, all of us skippers and the Imoca class&#8221;, because Clarisse Cr\u00e9mer&#8217;s desire to become a mum was known to us all, but no-one\u00a0adapted the rules, what do you think?\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\nWhen we made these (Vendee Globe qualification) rules we laid down the concept which was to do the maximum number of miles. Besides that,\u00a0<strong>we tried to cover all the special cases<\/strong>, there was the case of Clarisse who had expressed her desire to have a child, we also had foreign skippers who had obligations far away from France and for whom it was not\u00a0 easy to only come and race\u00a0in France, we had the case of a skipper who had health problems and therefore had to be absent for a few months for treatment. All these cases were studied and\u00a0<strong>led to\u00a0increasing the number of places for the Vend\u00e9e Globe, from 33 to 40<\/strong>, and adding a wild card. We thought that would be enough to encompass all these particular problems, we didn&#8217;t advance the question of motherhood futher ahead of any other case, we definitely\u00a0should have done so.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"EN-GB\"><strong>\u25ba\u00a0Do you think Banque Populaire&#8217;s decision was a little hasty, given the number of races Clarisse still had left to qualify and to accumulate miles?\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\nOnce more\u00a0this story concerns them, after, it is true that\u00a0<strong>there are still almost two thirds of the qualification process<\/strong>, two full seasons and loads of things can happen. So we can certainly consider\u00a0that Clarisse had a good chance of not finding herself outside this limit of 40 skippers, which we are still not even sure we will reach. Now\u00a0<strong>I think they overemphasized that reason, certainly compared to other reasons that concern them<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 lang=\"EN-GB\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">\u201cThe issues just now are not<br \/>\nnecessarily to continue to grow\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p lang=\"EN-GB\"><strong>\u25ba\u00a0Let&#8217;s move on to The Ocean Race, the second leg is about to end, what is your view of the start of the race?\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\nThe best way to judge the success of a race is not in the speeches or in\u00a0strategies, but\u00a0<strong>in the smiles and the reactions of the sailors<\/strong>. At the end of the first leg, they were all very happy, they enjoyed themselves as crews and the mix works very well. And\u00a0<strong>the race is crazy close<\/strong>, there is a real fight. As I speak to you (Friday morning), there is a 2.2 mile gap between the top three after 16 days of racing! And technically speaking, we realize that we are starting to get to know this concept of boats very well, which we discovered a little about during the Vend\u00e9e Globe 2020. We have been sailing on these boats for three or four years, we knew that they were going fast upwind and reaching,\u00a0<strong>we&#8217;ve seen since the start of the race that it&#8217;s starting to work really well downwind\u00a0VMG<\/strong>. This is really new compared to last year. We can say to ourselves that\u00a0<strong>the 600 miles in 24 hours can happen<\/strong>\u00a0in optimum conditions. For the moment, we have not discovered any particular problems across a good range of conditions. Now everything\u00a0about to happen in Cape Town now is going to be important, with a technical check of all the boats, tests on the masts and one-design parts&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p lang=\"EN-GB\"><strong>\u25ba\u00a0There are only five Imoca on this edition, are you confident to attract more boats in the future?\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\nThe timing of the organization of the race, which took place at the time of the Covid, was particularly hard, it was very complicated to bring in partners and\u00a0<strong>it is never easy to manage a first race in Imocas like this<\/strong>. Today we do see that the sailors are super happy, they are clearly our best ambassadors for the future. All the work we now have to do with the organizers is\u00a0<strong>to find the best solutions so that the race is accessible to a wider audience in the class<\/strong>. At each stage, we meet a certain number of teams, especially foreign ones, who are asking themselves the question of coming into Imoca and are seeing what it looks like, how much it costs.\u00a0It is already moving well for next time.<strong>\u00a0The foundations\u00a0are laid, there&#8217;s no reason there won&#8217;t be more entries next time.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p lang=\"EN-GB\"><strong>\u25ba\u00a0The Imoca class has grown considerably in recent years, how to manage this growth?\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\nWhen I arrived in 2017, there were 13 boats in the Transat Jacques Vabre, the first phase was to grow the class. Today,\u00a0<strong>we have about forty projects, many of which are very solid<\/strong>. The challenges now are not necessarily to continue this growth, because 40 boats, if only from a logistical point of view in the ports, is extremely complicated to manage. The objective is therefore\u00a0<strong>to stabilize this group, while continuing to value the diverse profiles<\/strong>, which is a big reason for our success and allows small projects to grow. The best example is probably that of Benjamin Dutreux who had one of the smallest budgets in the last Vend\u00e9e Globe and now finds himself at the head of a team in The Ocean Race. At the same time,\u00a0<strong>the class must be up to the current number of boats<\/strong>, the investments of each other, so that skippers and partners find what they came for. We don&#8217;t talk about it very often, but\u00a0<strong>Imoca now has 10 permanent staff<\/strong>, which means that as we grew, we managed to find the funding to have a strong, capable team\u00a0to deal with lots of subjects in a professional manner.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"EN-GB\"><strong>\u25ba\u00a0What is this annual budget?\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\nBetween 1 and 1.5 million euros depending on the year, provided by members, various and varied partners and the agreements we sign with the races.<\/p>\n<p><em>Photo: Jean-Louis Carli<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Between\u00a0the &#8220;Clarisse Cr\u00e9mer affair&#8221;\u00a0and\u00a0The Ocean Race,\u00a0Imoca is\u00a0top of the news agendas at the moment and so a good time for for Tip &#038; Shaft to speak with the president of the class, Antoine Mermod.\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":51314,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[257,282,352],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-51312","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-imoca-en","category-the-ocean-race-en","category-vendee-globe-en"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Antoine Mermod: &quot;It&#039;s up to Imoca to ensure that we make progress in terms of diversity&quot; - Sailorz<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Between\u00a0the &quot;Clarisse Cr\u00e9mer affair&quot;\u00a0and\u00a0The Ocean Race,\u00a0Imoca is\u00a0top of the news agendas. 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