{"id":59936,"date":"2023-12-11T07:00:11","date_gmt":"2023-12-11T06:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tipandshaft.com\/?p=59936"},"modified":"2023-12-08T18:50:00","modified_gmt":"2023-12-08T17:50:00","slug":"how-the-gitana-team-decided-to-build-a-new-ultim","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sailorz.com\/en\/ultim-en\/how-the-gitana-team-decided-to-build-a-new-ultim\/","title":{"rendered":"How the Gitana Team decided to build a new Ultim"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p><strong><em>Ariane de Rothschild<\/em><\/strong><em>, president of the Edmond de Rothschild Group,\u00a0<\/em><em>and\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>Cyril Dardashti<\/em><\/strong><em>, managing director of the Gitana Team, officially announced on Thursday in Paris\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/urlz.fr\/oOYI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>the launch of a new Ultim<\/em><\/a><em>, designed by\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>Guillaume Verdier\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><em>and built by\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>CDK Group<\/em><\/strong><em>.\u00a0<\/em>Tip &amp; Shaft\u00a0<em>was present and tells you more about this new project.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A year after first raising the possibility, Cyril Dardashti and Ariane de Rothschild have confirmed that\u00a0<em>Gitana 17 will\u00a0<\/em>have a successor in less than two years,\u00a0<em>Gitana 18<\/em>, and that it will once again be\u00a0<strong>an Ultim trimaran<\/strong>. The announcement was made official this Thursday in Paris, at the Edmond de Rothschild bank&#8217;s Paris premises. Was the choice obvious?\u00a0<em>&#8220;No,&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>replies Cyril Dardashti.\u00a0<strong><em>&#8220;We had presented several projects to Ariane de Rothschild, including an Imoca,\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><em>which we felt was a legitimate choice, insofar as there is one race that the team has never won: the Vend\u00e9e Globe&#8221;.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What made the difference in the end for a new Ultim?\u00a0<em>&#8220;First of all there&#8217;s our history. We have\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>a very strong preference for multihulls<\/em><\/strong><em>,&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>explains Ariane de Rothschild.\u00a0<em>&#8220;A monohull could have been a temporary solution to keep our project on track and avoid spending two years without sailing during the construction period, but we would have gone back to a multihull in any case. The debate was rather:\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>were we sure we could make a significant difference with a new Ultim\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><em>compared to\u00a0<\/em>Gitana 17<em>, which has certainly reached maturity, but which we can still push further? You have the answer.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Cyril Dardashti adds:\u00a0<em>&#8220;One of the reasons that pushed us towards this solution was the\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>fact that T-rudders were not authorised on the Imoca boats<\/em><\/strong><em>, so we wanted to stick with the &#8216;real fly&#8217;, but also the work that we had been doing for several months with Guillaume Verdier&#8217;s teams and our design office, which told us that it was still possible to make significant gains with a new Ultim.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Who is\u00a0<em>Gitana 17\u00a0<\/em>for?<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The choice was officially made\u00a0<em>&#8220;a fortnight ago&#8221;,\u00a0<\/em>assures the general manager of Gitana Team, who adds:\u00a0<em>&#8220;We had also worked with Guillaume\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>on the plans for an Imoca, we have also talked about a trimaran outside the Ultim class<\/em><\/strong><em>, but it seemed quite legitimate to us to continue working with the class insofar as there are some great things to write with them&#8221;.\u00a0<\/em>Skipper of the current\u00a0<em>Maxi Edmond de Rothschild (Gitana 17)<\/em>, Charles Caudrelier adds, regarding the decision taken:\u00a0<em>&#8220;Among the conditions for a new boat,\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>we had to be sure of being able to do better<\/em><\/strong><em>, and that&#8217;s something we&#8217;ve been thinking about for at least six months, but\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>also to sell\u00a0<\/em>Gitana 17.<\/strong><em>&#8220;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Which is the case? Not officially, but Cyril Dardashti seems particularly confident, assuring us that\u00a0<strong>the Verdier design will be sold\u00a0<em>&#8220;soon&#8221;<\/em><\/strong>, before adding:\u00a0<em>&#8220;Today, we&#8217;ve received around ten serious proposals\u00a0<\/em>[which he doesn&#8217;t wish to talk about, bound by confidentiality agreements, editor&#8217;s note]<em>, some of which we&#8217;ve selected, others not, I even had calls again not too long ago.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>For the managing director of Gitana Team, the criteria are\u00a0<em>&#8220;<\/em><strong><em>the price, the date,\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><em>as we&#8217;d like to see our programme through to the end, including the Jules Verne Trophy during the winter of 2024-2025, and the fact that the buyer does the Ultim circuit, even if it&#8217;s not a priority.&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>The price:\u00a0<em>&#8220;There&#8217;s\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>a \u20ac13 million version<\/em><\/strong><em>, with the boat handed over as she is today,\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>and a \u20ac15 million version<\/em><\/strong><em>, with all the spare appendages and a transfer of knowledge and technology so that the buyer has all the keys in hand to use her quickly.&#8221; Does\u00a0<\/em>this mean that\u00a0<em>Gitana 18\u00a0<\/em>will cost a minimum of 15 million euros?\u00a0<em>&#8220;Yes, it will be in those waters, but I won&#8217;t be able to tell you that until she&#8217;s launched.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Secret-defence on the future boat<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Cyril Dardashti is confident that\u00a0<em>Gitana 18<\/em>\u00a0will be able to move up the range even further, and to do so he has\u00a0<strong>once again chosen to rely on Guillaume Verdier\u00a0<\/strong>and his team.\u00a0<em>&#8220;It&#8217;s a natural choice,&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>he says.<em>\u00a0&#8220;We&#8217;ve had a long and trusting relationship with him, and a real design team has developed between him and our design office.\u00a0<\/em>Present in Paris on Thursday, the architect adds:\u00a0<em>&#8220;In the end, it&#8217;s a\u00a0<\/em><em>continuous piece\u00a0<\/em><em>of work.<\/em><em>\u00a0<\/em><em>Between\u00a0<\/em>Gitana 17\u00a0<em>and\u00a0<\/em>Gitana 18<em>, we never stopped working.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>The plans for the platform are now almost complete<\/strong>, with construction due to start\u00a0<em>&#8220;at the end of the month&#8221;,\u00a0<\/em>according to Cyril Dardashti. When asked about the areas in which it is possible to make significant gains, most of the people we spoke to were rather evasive.\u00a0<em>&#8220;On the hulls, we can still make it easier to pass through the sea and make the boats fly better,&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>says Guillaume Verdier.\u00a0<em>&#8220;There are still\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>a huge number of knots to be gained in terms of aerodynamics<\/em><\/strong><em>, we have apparent winds close to 45-50 knots almost all the time, so we really need to look after this aspect. And as for the sails, between the rigid wing we saw on the America&#8217;s Cup in San Francisco\u00a0<\/em>(in 2010)\u00a0<em>and a flexible sail, there&#8217;s a huge in-between world to explore.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Charles Caudrelier also clearly has the subject of sails on his mind, confiding:\u00a0<em>&#8220;I had a lot of ambition on the sail plan, we can&#8217;t make a rigid wing\u00a0<\/em>(forbidden by the rules)<em>, it&#8217;s a crazy project that I had in mind, but I think there are still ideas for improving the engine. 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They also showed us a cutting-edge industrial tool, and we were convinced by the technology deployed&#8221;,\u00a0<\/em>explains Cyril Dardashti.<\/p>\n<p>CDK&#8217;s Deputy Managing Director, Yann Dollo, confides:\u00a0<em>&#8220;I think that what may have tipped the balance in our favour is that\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>we have developed a great deal of expertise in the autoclave baking of very large parts<\/em><\/strong><em>, thanks in particular to the tool we invested in three years ago in Lorient, which is designed to be able to manufacture the arm of an Ultim in a single piece&#8221;.\u00a0<\/em>He estimates that\u00a0<em>Gitana 18\u00a0<\/em>will require\u00a0<em>&#8220;100,000 hours of work, around 40% of activity over two years&#8221;,<\/em><strong>\u00a0the launch is\u00a0scheduled for September 2025.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>With perhaps the Transat Jacques Vabre 2025 as her first race, time permitting, and a major objective a year later,\u00a0<strong>the Route du Rhum 2026, which Charles Caudrelier is aiming for<\/strong>:\u00a0<em>&#8220;I&#8217;m happy to be able to defend my title, which wasn&#8217;t necessarily planned at the start,&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>he explains<em>. &#8220;I&#8217;m looking forward to that, and then\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>the idea is to support a young person to replace me<\/em><\/strong><em>, because I also want to pass on my experience.&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0Has casting already begun to take over in three years&#8217; time?\u00a0<em>&#8220;We&#8217;re not there yet,&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>replies Cyril Dardashti,\u00a0<em>&#8220;but we&#8217;re looking at actors, young and old alike, because these are not machines you can just put into any hands.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em>Photo: Yann Riou \/ polaRYSE \/GITANA SA<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ariane de Rothschild, president of the Edmond de Rothschild Group,\u00a0and\u00a0Cyril Dardashti, managing director of the Gitana Team, officially announced on Thursday in Paris\u00a0the launch of a new Ultim, designed by\u00a0Guillaume Verdier\u00a0and built by\u00a0CDK Group.\u00a0Tip &#038; Shaft\u00a0was present and tells you more about this new project.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":17,"featured_media":59937,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[271],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-59936","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ultim-en"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.5 - 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