{"id":68062,"date":"2025-05-26T07:32:44","date_gmt":"2025-05-26T05:32:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tipandshaft.com\/?p=68062"},"modified":"2025-05-23T18:09:00","modified_gmt":"2025-05-23T16:09:00","slug":"how-the-trr-malizia-and-banque-populaire-teams-came-together","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sailorz.com\/en\/imoca-en\/how-the-trr-malizia-and-banque-populaire-teams-came-together\/","title":{"rendered":"How the TRR, Malizia and Banque Populaire teams came together"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><em>TR Racing<\/em><\/strong><em>, the\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>Malizia\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><em>and\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>Banque Populaire\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><em>teams announced on Monday\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/mukkm632\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">their partnership<\/a>\u00a0for the design and construction of their respective Imoca yachts, Antoine Koch designs built at CDK.\u00a0<\/em>Tip &amp; Shaft\u00a0<em>tells you more.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>During a 45-minute video press conference on Monday,\u00a0<strong>Thomas Ruyant<\/strong>,\u00a0<strong>Boris Herrmann\u00a0<\/strong>and\u00a0<strong>Lo\u00efs Berrehar\u00a0<\/strong>unveiled the outlines of their partnership for the design of their three Imoca boats, which will be launched in\u00a0<strong>June 2026\u00a0<\/strong>for the first two, and in the\u00a0<strong>first quarter of 2027\u00a0<\/strong>for the last. When and how did the idea of pooling resources come about?\u00a0<em>&#8220;At TRR<\/em>,\u00a0<strong><em>it all started with the desire to design a new boat\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><em>by upgrading the one we currently have, and to integrate crewed races into our program, The Ocean Race 2027 in particular,&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>explains Thomas Ruyant, whom Tip &amp; Shaft also contacted on Thursday<em>. There was also a desire to\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>continue the work initiated since 2019 with Antoine Koch<\/em><\/strong><em>.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Commenting on the decision to join forces with other teams, the 2022 Route du Rhum winner adds:\u00a0<em>&#8220;Several factors came into play: firstly<\/em><em>,<\/em><strong><em>\u00a0the evolution of class rules\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><em>with the introduction of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/vzxp9v4t\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the<\/a><\/em><em><a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/vzxp9v4t\">\u00a0eco-score<\/a>\u00a0<\/em>[which requires a 15% reduction in the carbon impact of a new build compared to the previous cycle, editor&#8217;s note];\u00a0<em>secondly,<\/em>\u00a0<em>the fact, following the experience I had with Sam Goodchild, that if it&#8217;s well organized, pooling can lead to some pretty fantastic things; and thirdly<\/em><strong><em>, a financial issue that\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><em>is far from negligible.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>All that remained was to find one or more teams sharing the same vision, which was the case for Team Malizia, as\u00a0<strong>Pierre-Fran\u00e7ois Dargnies<\/strong>, general and technical manager of Boris Herrmann&#8217;s team, tells us:\u00a0<em>&#8220;After The Ocean Race 2023, Boris talked to\u00a0his partners to do the following on a new boat, and he got the go ahead at the end of 2023 to launch construction.\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>He was very keen to work with Antoine Koch<\/em><\/strong><em>, so I insisted that we consult all the architects, which we did in January\/February 2024, seeing Antoine, but also VPLP, Guillaume Verdier and Sam Manuard.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The choice finally fell on Antoine Koch, who, Pierre-Fran\u00e7ois Dargnies continues,\u00a0<em>&#8220;had told us from our first discussions that he was available and motivated, but that he would give priority to his historic customers, TRR and Paprec Ark\u00e9a.&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>He adds:\u00a0<em>&#8220;In February 2024, TRR confirmed the order; as Paprec has not decided yet\u00a0<\/em>[the project will be made official on June 5, editor&#8217;s note]<em>, the timing was perfect for Antoine to have time to design\u00a0our two boats.\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>It was then up to us to see if we wanted to pool our efforts<\/em><\/strong><em>, which was indeed our intention. In fact, I had sounded out all the teams likely to build, including TRR and Banque Populaire.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Banque Populaire<br \/>\nin a second step<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>The agreement between Malizia and TRR was then sealed<strong>, and it was only later that Banque Populaire<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>joined the adventure<\/strong>.\u00a0<em>&#8220;When I contacted them, they told me straight away that they were interested, but they weren&#8217;t sure at the time that they&#8217;d make a Koch,&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>explains Pierre-Fran\u00e7ois Dargnies.\u00a0<strong>Jean-Marc Failler<\/strong>, in charge of the Imoca project within the Banque Populaire team, confirms:\u00a0<em>&#8220;When we validated the idea of doing the Vend\u00e9e in 2028, we quickly booked a construction slot at CDK and saw all the architects. We also decided that, between the new rules and budget considerations, we needed to find a team to<\/em>\u00a0<em>partner with. We did the rounds of the teams, and\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>when Thomas told us he was going back with Antoine, we said yes<\/em><\/strong><em>.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Thomas Ruyant adds:\u00a0<em>&#8220;If we&#8217;d all wanted the boats at the same time, it wouldn&#8217;t have been possible, but the fact that Banque Pop was less rushed and more focused on the Vend\u00e9e Globe made it possible to come up with this solution.&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>It was therefore\u00a0<strong>in the spring of 2024 that this three-team association was decided<\/strong>, which, together with Yoann Richomme&#8217;s new project, led Antoine Koch\u00a0<strong>to expand his AKOc\u00e9an\u00a0structure<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Thomas Dalmas and I have been joined by\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>Armand de Jacquelot and F\u00e9lix de Navacelle<\/em><\/strong><em>, while our two Cup guest-stars, who were already here last time, are working even more closely with us, namely\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>Bobby Kleinschmidt\u00a0<\/em><\/strong>(Team New Zealand)\u00a0<em>on the hulls and\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>Gu\u00e9nol\u00e9 Bernard\u00a0<\/em><\/strong>(Luna Rossa<em>) on the foil and rudder systems. We hadn&#8217;t originally thought we&#8217;d have to design three boats, but we&#8217;ve always been convinced that pooling our efforts has only advantages,&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>explains Antoine Koch.<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Financial gain<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><em>&#8220;on the order of 15-20%&#8221;<\/em><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>When asked about the budgetary savings of such pooling, Thomas Ruyant replies:\u00a0<em>&#8220;I&#8217;d find it hard to give a figure for fear of saying the wrong thing, but if someone works alone in their own corner, it&#8217;s not just a little more expensive, it&#8217;s a lot more expensive! If you take the example of molds, it&#8217;s not just the hull that&#8217;s shared, it&#8217;s all the other parts too. And in terms of construction,\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>there are big savings in terms of time spent by CDK<\/em><\/strong><em>, which has also adapted its way of working to reduce costs: when they cut a bulkhead or drape a part, they make two in the process.&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>For his part, Pierre-Fran\u00e7ois Dargnies estimates savings\u00a0<em>&#8220;in<\/em>\u00a0<strong><em>the order of 15-20%<\/em><\/strong><em>&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>for boats currently costing around 6 to 7 million euros.<\/p>\n<p>Is this pooling of resources enough to comply with the famous eco-score? Antoine Koch answers,\u00a0<em>&#8220;<\/em><strong><em>It&#8217;s valued at around 5%<\/em><\/strong><em>, but in any case, we&#8217;re aiming for a figure a little more ambitious than the 15% eco-score.&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>Thomas Ruyant confirms:\u00a0<em>&#8220;<\/em><strong><em>We&#8217;re doing a lot of work on a lot of other subjects<\/em><\/strong><em>, particularly on the way we make molds and tooling, not just in full carbon, but also on the amount of carbon used.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In other words, there are a lot of topics for discussion at the Tuesday afternoon meetings between the three teams, who, according to our contacts,\u00a0<strong>play the transparency card<\/strong>.\u00a0<em>&#8220;Things are going really well,&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>confirms Pierre-Fran\u00e7ois Dargnies.\u00a0<em>Firstly, because we&#8217;re all friends, and secondly, because as we&#8217;ll be racing the same boats,<\/em><strong><em>\u00a0there&#8217;s really no point in hiding things from each other<\/em><\/strong><em>.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>On the Banque Populaire side, Jean-Marc Failler confides:\u00a0<em>&#8220;I have to admit that this total transparency surprised me. We tend to have a culture of secrecy, but when we got into it with the other two teams,\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>it was an open book<\/em><\/strong><em>. We discuss everything, and that helps us make progress, because everyone brings their own experience, being\u00a0three around the table\u00a0helps us to\u00a0have more ideas.&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>However, he adds:\u00a0<em>&#8220;We did tell them that at some point\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>we would deviate to configure the cockpit for solo sailing<\/em><\/strong><em>.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">An adapted cockpit<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">for Banque Populaire<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>While Thomas Ruyant and Boris Herrmann&#8217;s Imoca boats will be true sisterships, designed for crewed sailing &#8211; they will be reconfigured for solo sailing after The Ocean Race 2027 &#8211; Lo\u00efs Berrehar&#8217;s boat will have a typical Vend\u00e9e Globe cockpit, which makes Antoine Koch say:\u00a0<em>&#8220;Even if the original project was to make strictly identical boats, it was perfectly understandable\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>to make a more solo-oriented cockpit, and therefore a little more compact<\/em><\/strong><em>.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Commenting on the future boat, which has been designed by AKO &#8211; Finot-Conq and GSea Design were involved in the CFD and structural work<em>: &#8220;There won&#8217;t be any technological breakthroughs, it&#8217;s always a question of optimizing what you&#8217;ve done before. The previous\u00a0<\/em>boat\u00a0<em>performed very well in certain conditions, particularly downwind, so\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>we&#8217;re keen to make some progress in terms of versatility<\/em><\/strong><em>.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The results of these evolutions will be visible from June 2026, the launch date which doesn&#8217;t seem to have been affected by\u00a0<strong>the cooking problem on the first hull<\/strong>.\u00a0<em>&#8220;There was indeed a problem,&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>confirms Thomas Ruyant.\u00a0<em>We&#8217;re currently in discussions about this first hull, will it be for us or another team?&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>Another team that could be outside the three-team project, he adds. Ruyant reassures us:\u00a0<em>&#8220;We had taken on some advance, so\u00a0<\/em><strong><em>whatever the option, the planned program remains unchanged<\/em><\/strong><em>.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>When asked about this, Pierre-Fran\u00e7ois Dargnies mentions\u00a0<em>&#8220;<\/em><strong><em>some planning adjustments<\/em><\/strong><em>, but we&#8217;ll start draping as planned on July 1&#8243;<\/em>. The first two boats should therefore be sailing together in the summer of 2026, with Thomas Ruyant hoping that the collaboration between the teams will continue beyond the design\/build phase:\u00a0<em>&#8220;I know how much progress can be made by exchanging ideas, so I imagine we won&#8217;t stop there. In many ways<\/em><strong><em>, I think the three of us will continue to work together<\/em><\/strong><em>.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Photo : Eloi Stichelbaut \/ polaRYSE<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>TR Racing, the\u00a0Malizia\u00a0and\u00a0Banque Populaire\u00a0teams announced on Monday\u00a0their partnership\u00a0for the design and construction of their respective Imoca yachts, Antoine Koch designs built at CDK.\u00a0Tip &#038; Shaft\u00a0tells you more.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":18,"featured_media":68048,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[257],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-68062","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-imoca-en"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>How the TRR, Malizia and Banque Populaire teams came together - 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